EXTREME “Amazing Grace”! A Conundrum? 🕊

[“The 4 Beasts” – site listed on bottom]

NOTE: as depicted in the painting, these 4 Beasts/living creatures are closest to the throne than the 24 Elders behind them, and behind the Elders are the angels – who are furtherest from God’s throne. WHY?

To find out WHY – read this entire post.

If you don’t want to do that, then scroll down close to bottom & read the sections that are in BLUE, which reads, 

A“LET US GO BACK TO REVELATION 4” & also,

B) “HOW DO WE KNOW THESE “beasts” are REAL and not SYMBOLIC creatures?” Or, 

C) “WHAT other PROOF do we have THAT THESE CREATURES are HUMANS SAVED by GRACE”

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Luke 7:28 probably sounds confusing to most readers (to those who have figured it out – HURRAH!). Jesus said: “…Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he,” John the Baptist.

John was held in very high esteem by Jesus (as well as the ordinary citizen, “and the publicans”…”the Pharisees and lawyers” – maybe not so much – v. 29, 30). Though Jesus did say, of all the prophets, there is “not a greater prophet.” Then how can Jesus turn around and say:

“but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than” John the Baptist?

Does that sound convoluted and contradictory to you? There are verses like these that have “apparent” contradiction, but we have a great example of what Jesus said about “least.” There are some “least” people in heaven that are shown to us in Revelation.

FIRST, let us get back to what Jesus is saying here in Luke 7:28. Those who are “least” are those who everyone were sure to be “less likely saved.” They were either the worst criminal in your neighborhood, town, city or State – even “the least of these” – Jesus says in Matthew 25:38-40 that we’ve seen these people around.

Hopefully WE TOOK PITY ON THEM, as if they were Jesus Who we saw in need – its “when saw we thee [Jesus] a stranger, and took thee in, or naked, and clothed thee, Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee. And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.”

Because of OUR PART in God’s rescue plan, HE WAS ABLE TO GET THE ATTENTION OF “the LEAST of these” and turn them around. They became the model citizen in their community and remained so, continuing to improve upon their character – a joy to be around.

SUCH IS THE STORY OF A SLAVE TRADER *

Back in the day, this slave trader was a hardened monster on a slave ship – and all of the attending horrors that go with it. This man was HELPED AND INFLUENCED by Christians and was struck by the forces of God, giving his life over to Jesus, and in doing so, wrote “Amazing Grace” – yes, that one – that song you know (even if you haven’t been to church?).

Q: SO – how can this “least” person person be “greater than” John the Baptist, the Greatest Prophet who ever lived!

A: The song says it all: “Amazing Grace” — it took more grace (more of God’s grace) to save this man (slave ship master) than it did for any decent man around him. Therefore, that MUCH MORE GLORY goes TO GOD! God is given more of the credit, because that man is a great example of an extreme hard case – unreachable (it appeared) by all accounts, except by God! No one could touch this hardened “reprobate” (it would seem). Was it because God could see his heart? Was it that this mans’s heart was not black, through and through?

God saw a spark of smoldering love buried deep inside that wicked exterior. God said, “that’s it – let’s go for it!” God fanned the burning ember into a flame and then into a roaring fire for Him and lost souls!

WHAT SALVATION STORY CAN BE MORE DRAMATIC THAN THAT? (Link to story below). I’ll tell you what – it is the story revealed in Revelation 4 and the amazing living creatures (“the 4 beasts”) that are closest to the throne of God, than any creatures that have ever been made, since the beginning of time immemorial. Though ALL our DNA has been manipulated and merged with some of God’s other creatures/creation [there is no original race left, due to this tampering-yes, those who lived before the flood used 100% of their brains, using technology beyond today’s standards]. SO, there were some extreme cases of DNA MANIPULATION by these ANTEDILUVIAN BRAINIACS. You can see their depiction on ancient Egyptian walls/murals/grave sites/pyramids – “google” it, you won’t be disappointed (OR JUST LOOK AT WHAT I POSTED HERE). Yet God was able to save some of these e-x-t-r-e-m-e cases.
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DONT BELIEVE THE LIE THAT these “giants” mentioned in Genesis 6 are half fallen angels and half human. Yes, the devil had a hand in helping wicked men create these monsters/monstrosities. HOWEVER, if these creatures were ( supposedly) HALF HUMAN and HALF ANGELS, then God would not have been able to save such beings (and God is all about salvation. Fallen angels can’t be saved, as proved in this text – Matt.25:41). SO, HOW DID THE PEOPLE BECOME “GIANTS” as spoken of in Genesis 6:4?

GIANTISM will sometimes result, when mixing two types of DNA – such as the “liger” – lion/tiger mix; this is sometimes called “hybrid vigor,” but don’t let that fool you. The gene for growth (in the pituitary gland) is not switched off. This ALSO makes the alligator a hybrid species – continuing to grow throughout his life**. Besides, this mating of angels with human women, to make a so-called human god, could not take place, because Jesus says, angels are incapable of mating/marriage, in that they are “asexual.” Copulation is a biological impossibility (Matt.22:30).

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[“Liger”-lion/tiger hybrid-web site below]

NOT TO MENTION, that angel DNA is incompatible with human DNA (angels may not even have DNA!?). They are “spirits” made of: “a flame of fire.” God has “made his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire” (Hebrews 1:7).

Creatures of fire have a totally and radically different make-up than creatures of flesh/”clay”/”dust”/mud/dirt (our bodies are over 70% water and 30% organic material-Gen.2:7). It would be like trying to mate liquid fire with liquid water, which would be more likely to happen than mating “flaming spirits” with “flesh and blood.” Come to think of it – I take that back. That marriage did take place, just once – when God’s Son, Michael the Archangel,*** joined His flesh with a little virgin girl, called “Mary.” But then Jesus is God (100% God – not a created God… God in verity, as Isaiah 9:6 and John 14:7-9 says – which is to say, when you see God’s Son, you’ve seen “The Everlasting Father”). God’s Son can do anything, that God the Father can do – but of course, chose to give up His powers while on Earth (John 14:10; Philippians 2:5-8).
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[“Lion of the Tribe of Judah” Jesus – Revelation 5:5]

NEVERTHELESS, angels are incapable of doing what God can do – and Who chose to do just once, when He, the Spirit God – “a consuming fire” – was merged with the DNA of “flesh and blood”and became a one-of-a-kind unique HUMAN-GOD HYBRID (John 4:24; Hebrews 12:29 “…our God is a consuming fire”). Jesus chose, not only to enter into the corrupted flesh of Adam, but also into the HYBRID DNA TAMPERED FLESH of man, weakened by 4,000 years of corrupted genes. “Google” it – you will find, that because of  CORRUPTED DNA LANGUAGE within our CELLS, humanity is on the verge of EXTINCTION. Our Eco-system is on the verge of collapse also. WHY? Because of those who are controlled by a maddened demon (Lucifer) who is as a “roaring lion” knowing his time is short, is possessing men to “DESTROY the Earth” (1 Peter 5:8; Revelation 11:18; 12:12).

LET US GO BACK TO REVELATION 4, and touch upon the special “beasts” or “living creatures.” Just a cursory reading of this chapter, as well as chapters 5 & 6 reveals the closeness of these four creatures to God’s throne – even closer than the 24 elders (and who God identified with Himself in Ezekiel 1:10 as a spiritual depiction of His character, as well as a prophecy of salvation for even “the least of these.”

[see my paper on “The Four Faces of God” – I will gladly produce a copy for those who ask – all I have now is on paper. So, for a copy of that, would involve some expense. I’ll work on making a digital copy for you guys sometime soon. But it would probably be a while before I blog it – for one, there is a chart involved and my blog site does not have that capability – I think?].

HOW DO WE KNOW THESE “beasts” are REAL and not SYMBOLIC creatures?:

~Only real creatures can give God praises, saying “holy, holy, holy” (Rev.4:8)
~Only real creatures can “give glory and honour and thanks to Him that sat on the throne,” the God of the universe (Rev.4:9)
~Only those creatures created by God, can be created at all (no one else can create) and therefore acknowledged by God for His “pleasure” – “Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created” (Rev.4:11).

What God allows, He has done so, in the creative sense. These “beasts” are hybrid humans with human and beasts DNA – Lucifer was never given the ability to “create” OR even “pro-create.” This is partly what enraged him. So, he set about to deface God’s Image. But God embraced all these types of creatures that allowed Him to change them into His special creation.

HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED why God says that “the number of the beast, is the number of a man…666”? – Revelation 13:18. It is because the “living creature…the beasts of the earth” were created on the 6th day. Then, when Adam gave over his dominion to Lucifer, he became the “prince of this world” and took the “living creature/the beast of the earth” to corrupt God’s Image, and make man into the devil’s image, which God calls the “666” of the beast-man. Only through Christ can we be given back that Image of God: “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus” – Philip.2:5

WHAT other PROOF do we have THAT THESE CREATURES (“THE BEASTS”) are HUMANS SAVED BY GRACE?

~Only humans who are saved to the uttermost can be closest to the throne – you don’t get any closer than in Revelation 5:6 “And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain.”We are invited to sit with Jesus on His throne as “kings and priests” – v.10; Ephesians 2:6) [there will be one final group who will be closest to the throne, than the 4 beasts, in Rev.14]
~Only humans can sing a “new song” (as did Moses – angels do not have the experience of trials, birth and re-birth, and therefore their “song” cannot be “new”) – “And they [the 4 beasts] sung a new song, saying, Thou [Jesus] art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof”
~Only humans can be “redeemed” – rebellious angels could never be “redeemed ” and unfallen angels need not be “redeemed”… for thou [Jesus] wast slain, and hast redeemed us [the 4 living creatures and 24 elders, and all saved humans] to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation” (Rev.5:9)
~Only humans are made: “kings and priests: and…shall reign on the earth” – “And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth” (Rev.5:10). “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne” (Rev.3:21)

God makes a distinction between “the voice of many angels round about the throne” and that of the hybrid humans called “the beasts”/” the four beasts” (OR “four living creatures”- KJV margin). Ezekiel 1:5 refers to them as “four living creatures” who “had the likeness of a man” – or another way to say this, is that these creatures are “men” – and as philip.2:7 says, Jesus “…made Himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men).

This is saying that Christ became the ULTIMATE lowly hybrid, when He took upon our corrupted DNA. God has singled out “the four beast,” as well as “the elders” (as outlined in Rev.4-5) to reveal something about Himself. ARE WE LISTENING? Romans 12:3 says, “…to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought…”

We can then understand that Revelation 5:13,14 is DOING ITS BEST TO REVEAL TO US THAT GOD is in the business of saving “every creature,” no matter where they dwell – whether on top of the earth, or “under the earth.” We will be very surprised, as we witness the last day “saved” and actually see who these creatures are!

“And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever” – NOTE that “the four beasts” and the 24 “elders” seconded that motion. (See also Philippians 2:10).

JUST HOW CLOSE TO GOD’s THRONE ARE THESE “four living creatures”?
Revelation 6 tells us how close. “The four beasts” are so close, that they are the ONLY ONES WITH “THE LAMB” as He begins the job of opening “THE SEALS.” No other beings, but “the four beasts” are with Jesus throughout the opening of 4 out of the 6 seals.

NOTE: the chronological order of this verse in Revelation 7:11 “And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God.” There is a circle or a square of:
a) angels on outside
b) 24 elders are closer still (inside)
c) 4 beasts are right next to God+ (See Nat’l Geographic link below)
d) God is in the center

+NEVERTHELESS, there will be a group even closer to God than the 4 beasts. They are the 144,000. They will sing a song that no one else will even know the tune to. Because their experience is closer still to what Christ had gone through on earth (Rev.14:1-5). As did Jacob, the 144,000 will wrestle with the “Angel” – God’s Son, in order to gain the victory over sin (Gen.32:24-32; Hosea 12:2-5)

Jeremiah 30:6-7 “Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it”

Matthew 5:48 “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect” Matthew 5:19, 20 “…For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven”

God tells us that, he that is greatest on earth will be least in heaven, and he that is least shall be greatest. That the first shall be last, and the last shall be first (Matt.23:11-12; James 4:6)

Luke 9:48 “And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great” Matthew 19:30 “But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first”

WHY?

That is, because the “Least” are in need of more “Grace” to be saved. And the more “Grace” that is needed to be given by God, the more “Glory” He gets to keep for Himself. So, the “Greater” (spiritually) you are on Earth, the less “Grace” you need for salvation.”

*http://www.anointedlinks.com/amazing_grace.html [story only is endorsed]
**http://www.ligerliger.com/articles.php?a=1
Or, alligators: http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1289270
***for thousands of years theologians have taught that Michael is God, Who became the pre-incarnate God/man Christ (100% God, & with the Father, in ALL eternity pasts). This teaching is significantly different than the teachings of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, who claim that Michael is a created being. Please check out this biblical site:
http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/trinity/michael.htm

Also, proof of man tampering again with our DNA, “as in the Days of Noah” (Matt.24:37),
in this National Geographic article published 2005 (that was 11 yrs. ago!):
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/01/0125_050125_chimeras.html

Art by permission-Pat Marvenko Smith, copyright 1992. To order prints visit her site: http://www.revelationillustrated.com

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Fiery sparklers under water

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